So which one do you choose and why? It all depends on what you are use to and familiar with honestly. MIL is 3.6" @ 100 yards and MOA is 1.047" @ 100 yards. That would make the MIL a coarse drive ratchet and the MOA a fine drive ratchet in layman's terms. When you break down individual clicks that would be 0.36" for MIL and 0.25" for MOA. So that would make MOA a little more precise and for MIL it would make for faster overall adjustments. Where you will see the differences are that most bench-rest style of shooters will choose MOA for the more precise adjustments. Competitive shooters (PRS and NRL style) will choose MIL because it will be a faster adjustment out to farther distances and less overall variances between those distances. In the end it really just boils down to personal preferences and what style of shooting you will be participating in most of the time.
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Everyone is using mils for adjustments. I just can't see wind in mils if that makes any sense.
Is there a good site that can break down how to use mils for dummies? I suck at math, and get really confused by explanations that assume I know something.
Made the switch from MOA to MRAD and I’m so glad I did. Makes shooting a breeze. And it feels quicker
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I have experience with MIL, but I prefer using MOA for my shooting. doodle baseball
MIl is finer than MOA - you are forgetting the turret turns. MOA is usually 4 per 1 MOA and MIl is 10 per 1 mil.
So for MOA at .25 per click and you are at a 1/4 inch per click.
For MIL at .1 per click and it having 10 per 1 mil you are getting .36 inches per click but have 10 stops to fine tune versus 4 for MOA.
I'm familiar with moa. I've tried mil but it was a disaster,one day I'll learn it.
I am learning mils because I like quick adjustments and my son is a mil guy, makes it easier with his mil spotter scope!
I started with MOA, just because at first it seemed easier to remember - 100 yds ~ 1". Now that I have a number of MOA scopes, red dots, etc. I don't really want to switch. Rather not have to keep,up with the holdover and such differently depending on what rifle I happen to have picked ip.
MOA for me, because that's what I'm familiar with.
I bought both moa and mil in the the EP5. but I'm not good at
Does anyone know if the moa scopes are actually set for 1.047 at 100, or did they set them for 1in at 100?
Been using MOA most of my life, hence why I'm gravitating towards it :D On the side note, I know it's matter of preference, but is there any hard data/articles/stats on which is better? Tried looking at Truthaboutguns and gunicorns.com but didn't find anything on this.
Preference depends on what you get accustomed to and want to do. Just be consistent. If shooting with a group or spotter be sure you are all accustomed to the same system (speak the same language). If you have no experience I suggest MIL over MOA as metric system is easier to calculate quickly in your head as long as you are familiar with the metric system. If you, like myself grew up with 1/4 inch clicks at 100 yards using the MOA system then I see no point in trying to change what you are accustomed to. Just don't take on trying to convert one to the other right away as that gets disastrous especially in a high pressure environment until one has some experience. For example if you are using MOA be sure you range with yards and if you are using MIL use meters exclusively. Eliminating conversation will help eliminate errors from conversation while getting accustomed to which ever system you choose. MOA is almost exclusively used by F Class and benchrest shooters because of of the finer adjustment available with most MOA optics but that is not necessarily desirable if quickly dialing dope on the run. In summary what your choice is depends on what you want to do what you and your constitutes are familiar with. Do your homework then decide what works for you.
MOA!! I have a Mil scope and despise it 😂. Not really but i grew up on MOA and it’s more precise to me. impossible for me to get confused in a hurry.
I got MIL, but prefer MOA for my shooting
My personal preference is the MIL version. The math is MUCH quicker in my head that MOA is, by far. Dimes and Dollars vs. Quarters and Dollars. I originally learned this system back when I was using a Marine Mil-Dot reticle with a 1/4" per click scope. Lot's of calculations and misses as the result. Getting my 1st matching reticle/turret scope was a huge lightbulb moment, and I have never looked back.